The mixing of religious and non-religious beliefs in an individual.

Atomised Beliefs

If each belief is atomised into a single statement, i.e: 'There is a God'.

Then from each statement, there can be connected agreeing statements. For example: 'God is Love'

Then, eventually, the 'belief tree' can reach logical conclusions, in which all the statements agree with one another from the root statement to the leaf statements, to potential fruit and seed statements.

Tags: argument, atomised, diagram, god, statement, tree

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Permalink Reply by Kernel John on October 6, 2012 at 11:22am

Interesting idea but what happens if someone says God is everything - including hate?

There are those who believe God is in everything. . . that God created everything . . . including the possibility for hate.

I like your idea but think maybe people should present their long narratives and other should synopsize them into atomized statements. I know this is work intensive but . . . any response?

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Permalink Reply by Richard Boase on October 6, 2012 at 1:48pm

Yeah - I don't like this precisely because people have a tendency to waffle and show off their knowledge/vocabulary/ideas ... and it often ends up that what you're reading is someone's pretentious nonsense.

The reason I propose atomised statements that are either true or false is so that they can be worked into bigger systems, and statements can be used like logic gates to control the flow of belief...

If you do take a statement like 'god is love' that stands distinct from the statements: 'god is hate' 'god creates hate' 'god loves hate' etc.

I suppose all this comes down to a question of what an 'open source religion' is for. What's it's purpose? If you think of religion as a programming mechanism for humans... what are you proposing this open source religion is to task humans with doing? Who is being applied by, and who to?

I think it may well be that religion is an outdated concept altogether, and although I've never been entirely happy with the idea of scrapping tradition entirely, religions are really pre-industrial philosophy and education. I would be in favour of this project if it had some mapping technology, so that we could create flowcharts of belief in 3d space and then navigate them dynamically...

Kernel John said:

Interesting idea but what happens if someone says God is everything - including hate?

There are those who believe God is in everything. . . that God created everything . . . including the possibility for hate.

I like your idea but think maybe people should present their long narratives and other should synopsize them into atomized statements. I know this is work intensive but . . . any response?

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Permalink Reply by Sidian M.S. Jones on October 6, 2012 at 10:31pm

Richard, sounds like you would enjoy our upcoming Belief Genome project. :)

Richard Boase said:

Yeah - I don't like this precisely because people have a tendency to waffle and show off their knowledge/vocabulary/ideas ... and it often ends up that what you're reading is someone's pretentious nonsense.

The reason I propose atomised statements that are either true or false is so that they can be worked into bigger systems, and statements can be used like logic gates to control the flow of belief...

If you do take a statement like 'god is love' that stands distinct from the statements: 'god is hate' 'god creates hate' 'god loves hate' etc.

I suppose all this comes down to a question of what an 'open source religion' is for. What's it's purpose? If you think of religion as a programming mechanism for humans... what are you proposing this open source religion is to task humans with doing? Who is being applied by, and who to?

I think it may well be that religion is an outdated concept altogether, and although I've never been entirely happy with the idea of scrapping tradition entirely, religions are really pre-industrial philosophy and education. I would be in favour of this project if it had some mapping technology, so that we could create flowcharts of belief in 3d space and then navigate them dynamically...

Kernel John said:

Interesting idea but what happens if someone says God is everything - including hate?

There are those who believe God is in everything. . . that God created everything . . . including the possibility for hate.

I like your idea but think maybe people should present their long narratives and other should synopsize them into atomized statements. I know this is work intensive but . . . any response?