The mixing of religious and non-religious beliefs in an individual.

Christianity (and all religions) must be born again

All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible.

        T.E. Lawrence: “The Seven Pillars of Wisdom”

                                The Church must be “born again”, or.. Gods “New Thing”

In the entire bible..the Lord says He will do a “new thing” only twice, so listen up!

Isaiah 43:19- See, I am doing a new thing! Now it springs up; do you not perceive it? I am making a way in the desert and streams in the wasteland.

Jeremiah 31:22 How long will you wander, O unfaithful daughter? (the church), The Lord will create a new thing on earth-- a woman will compass (surround) a man."

      What I am about to present to you dear reader is that “new thing” This radical departure from traditional or “orthodox” Christianity is the apogee or culmination of a stream or series of revelations I have experienced over the many years that I have been a born again or “born from above” Christian. I have had to keep most of these bible based insights to myself for they were received from the guidance and illumination of the Holy Ghost but are of such a nature and so far removed from the modern or contemporary or “acceptable” forms of “church” organizations that we see scattered all over the landscape, I had to grow in wisdom and knowledge in order to fully understand the applications to Gods people, the church, His body. After many years of prayer, bible study, and personal experiences, much of which included laboring in the vineyard, serving side by side with brothers and sisters as we carried His message of salvation to those that had not yet heard it..or who had heard it but did not yet receive it correctly, Now is the time to express this “new thing” to those with ears to hear.and eyes to see. what Malachi saw at the closure of the Old Dispensation when he wrote,

      "Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and that day that is coming will set them on fire," says the Lord Almighty. "Not a root or a branch will be left to them.   But for you who revere my name, the Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. And you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall. Then you will trample down the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I do these things," says the Lord Almighty.

What follows in this book is how to better understand our Savior and how to be filled with his light in a new, more pure way, as we discover together the appellation of “the Lord is the Son of God” manifesting in the Sun of Righteousness.

In the entire bible..the Lord says He will do a “new thing” only twice...

Isaiah 43:19- See, I am doing a new thing! Now it springs up; do you not perceive it? I am making a way in the desert and streams in the wasteland.

Jeremiah 31:22 How long will you wander, O unfaithful daughter? (the church), The Lord will create a new thing on earth-- a woman will compass (surround) a man."

22 How long will you waver,O faithless daughter?For the Lord has created a new thing on the earth woman encircles a man
(English Standard version)

22 How long wilt thou be dissolute in deliciousness, O wandering daughter? for the Lord hath created a new thing upon the earth: A WOMAN SHALL COMPASS A MAN.
     (Douay-Rheims)

22 How long will you gad about, O you backsliding daughter? For the Lord has created a new thing in the earth-- A woman shall encompass a man."
     (King James)

     Huh? A woman will surround a man? What kind of talk is that? How can a woman surround a man you may wonder. Here’s how, .speaking in biblical ways as types, symbols, and literally, all in one fell swoop.

Revelation 12:1-2
      1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.   She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.

Romans 8:22 - We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

Galatians 4:19 My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you,

     Now in the words of the Master Himself

Mt. 13:8 -Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.

Mt 24:8 - All these are the beginning of birth pains.

      The Church itself self must now be “Born Again.”.says the Holy Bible, the Word of the Lord,. because she has fallen asleep, and has grown anemic, slothful, and ultimately “unfaithful”. She has failed in many ways to adhere to the Full Gospel, the bible in its entirety, and as a result not managed to keep herself pure and in conformity to His entire Word, in her growth and development throughout history. Somewhere along the way she has been misguided by the many leaders and teachers that have wittingly or unwittingly fed her incorrectly and who have failed to pick the best and most nutritious fruit from Gods garden, the Holy Scriptures and bountiful bountiful nature, the amazing resource He has given us to teach, edify, inspire, and satisfy the deep longing all born again Christians has to intimately and personally unite with the Godhead, the fountainhead of pure undiluted, daily manna and wellspring from on high, the Most Holy and Absolute El Sahddai.the breasted one.
We as “born again” or “born from above” Christians are all familiar with the basic assumption that we are the “body” of Christ, who is the head.

1 Corinthians 12:12-14 (King James Version)

       12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

14 For the body is not one member, but many.

     In these climactic “Last Days”, or “daze” as most Christians seem to be experiencing, if you can believe the polls and judged by the Christians inability to achieve conformity to the likeness and obedience to Jesus., we have much work to do before He can return to claim His bride.

Revelations 19: 7-9

Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.
Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear.”
     (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.)
Then the angel said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!’ ”
And he added, “These are the true words of God.”

      There are so many gaps and unconnected dots between the actions of those called “followers of Jesus Christ”, or “Christians”, and our operations manual.the Holy Bible, which is quite explicit in its warnings of the deep, unparalleled, levels of deception that Satan unleashes in “these last days”, to confound and confuse (Babylon means confusion), those that are still locked into the values of this world..as opposed to the values of His Word and His World, “The Kingdom of God”.
     Since the early days of the church, when it’s first converts and members were “born from above” by the amazing, unprecedented, arrival of the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Ghost, as cloven tongues of fire fell on them all and entered into each of the one hundred and twenty followers of Jesus, in that “upper room”, that auspicious Day of Pentecost, and they all, one hundred and twenty of them, disciples and Apostles of Jesus, “spoke in tongues”, as the Spirit gave them utterance. They raised such a commotion of extraordinary joy and amazement, that thousands of Jews that had gathered in Jerusalem, to celebrate the Feast of Pentecost, heard the ruckus and murmuring to each other outside, some accused the celebrants in that upper room of all being drunk, and others were amazed since they were hearing the assembly speaking in all the languages of the various visiting jews from all over the known world at that time   So Peter had to go out on the balcony and shout his first sermon to the crowds gathered below, “we are not drunk as you suppose., but this is that spoken by the prophet Joel,.we have all been filled with the Holy Spirit to fulfill the visions of Joel in the Old Testament.... Joel Chapter III

Joel; 1-6,   After this I will pour out my spirit on all   flesh,
Your sons and daughters shall prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams,
and your young men shall see visions
Even on the slaves, men and women,
I will display portents ion heaven and on earth,
blood and fire and columns of smoke.

       So began the church that auspicious day with a “new thing”, so surprising, so unexpected and so revolutionary and revelatory (and so strange..speaking in tongues with stammering lips), that it eventually turned the world upside down, and inside out.
       For awhile the early newborn church was a mighty force and fortress, until it gradually became weakened, comprimised, and dissolute over the centuries.and lost its luster, and attractiveness until today, where the miracles have lessened to a trickle, the unity and love has all but vanished, and the Christians themselves seem to have reached the end of the journey where they sit on a bench at a crossroads , not certain where to go, who to believe, or what to do to revive themselves and unite as One into that mighty force that once changed the world for Christ, that phenomenon we call Joel's army. But, I have been shown that army is yet to come.

to be continued...

this subject is really a post for Christians, those that have had their eyes and ears "opened" by the Most Holy Spirit, so that the bible is understood as the Word of God.

The bible makes little sense to the many that have not yet met Jesus as Lord..Jesus as God's only "begotten" son...

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 11, 2011 at 11:11am

I wonder though if it is better to straighten it out before you are even "called on it" unless you mean if you are called on it by "god".

I remember someone apologizing to me and I had no idea why, I had not taken offence, but god had told him what he said was offensive and told him to apologize.

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 11, 2011 at 11:16am

Permalink Reply by Jeff H 15 hours ago

I've had a one on one with God we're all good. If God had more importance to lend to the crystals He would have put it in the Bible. Thank you for sharing.

And with what you know of the sins of the institution known as the catholic church, are you really so certain that some of that bible has not been hidden away that did not figure into that institutions worldly desires.?

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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on July 11, 2011 at 11:57am

I've done that before too.

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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on July 11, 2011 at 12:18pm

doing is works... works don't save, Jesus does.

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Permalink Reply by Robert DeFord on July 11, 2011 at 12:24pm

He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with
its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and
descending on it. ¹³ There above it^[a]
stood the LORD, and he said: “I am the LORD, the God of your father
Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the
land on which you are lying. ¹⁴
Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will
spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south.
All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring.^[b] ¹⁵
I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go, and I will bring
you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I
have promised you.”

¹⁶ When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought, “Surely the LORD is in this place, and I was not aware of it.” ¹⁷ He was afraid (great reaction that..the fear of the Lord..the beginning of Wisdom), and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God; this is the gate of heaven.”

¹⁸ Early the next morning Jacob took the stone he had placed under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on top of it.

He annointed the Stone Jeff...A Stone Jeffie^19...

He called that place Bethel,^[c] though the city used to be called Luz.

²⁰ Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me and will watch over me on this journey I am taking and will give me food to eat and
clothes to wear ²¹ so that I return safely to my father’s household, then the LORD^[d] will be my God ²² and^[e]

this stone that I have set up as a pillar will be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will give you a tenth.”

Jeff you are not reading what the Word of God days..you are in fact adding words to what God says here.

this stone that I have set up as a pillar will be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will give you a tenth.”

Jacob says (THE WORD OF GODSAYS) the Stone is Gods House and Jacob says he will give God 1/10.It does not say what Jeffie says it says or means that the stone was just a "memorial"..it says Jeff the stone is God's House..then hundreds and hundreds and more hundreds of years later Jesus says upon this Stone I willbuild my church (House of God again) and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it (like those hellish gates have prevailed in what is caled Christianity Jeff..it is not United in Love..It is not clothed in the "sun"..it instead is a broken, fragmented, schismatic, divided, many headed hysdra..certainly not what Jesus has in mind for His bride Jeff. If you are satified with the over all condition of Christianity you have not plumbed the depths of "THE MIND OF CHRIST" REGARDING HIS PLANS FOR RENOVATION AND RESTORATION..I HAVE.

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 11, 2011 at 12:26pm

Permalink Reply by Khem 1 hour ago: You have no clue what you are talking about.

"To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much."
--G.I. Gurdjieff.

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Gen. 3:22

Khem can declare these both fulfilled in him. That's why he is the (complete) Revelator.

Either you know absolutely or you only have a incomplete perception of it.

Obviously absolute knowledge is not the context of knowledge or good and evil

Also man is NOT like good because he is denied the ability to partake of the tree of life.

And Satan I am sure also has the knowledge needed to be called the "Revelator" of good and EVIL

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 11, 2011 at 12:28pm

You do seem to present much of the spirit of Christ I have been blessed to have seen in many of my fellow believers.

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 11, 2011 at 12:36pm

you are correct, but just because the horse is faith does not mean it is not pulling a cart full of good works along behind it.

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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on July 11, 2011 at 1:39pm

so now you have to call names....

Gen 31:45 KJV - And Jacob took a stone, and set it up [for] a pillar.

Its something Jacob does pretty regularly. God never proclaimed it His house. But of the Tabernacle he did say:

Exd 25:8-9 KJV - And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them. According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it].

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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on July 11, 2011 at 1:44pm

the concern becomes the multitude that feel they have no need of a Savior because the try to live well. Every other faith is based on making ourselves acceptable to God. Christianity recognizes that is impossible except by the work of Jesus. The question then becomes "How do we appropriate that salvation?" To that I can on find one answer in Scripture.

Act 16:30-33 NASB - and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." And they spoke the word ofthe Lord to him together with all who were in his house. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household.

and...

Rom 10:8-11 NASB - But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes,resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses,resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 11, 2011 at 3:07pm

I do not understand what you mean by how do we appropiate that salvation.. let me check the dictionary...

okay ... take possession of

we confess our sins, repent, and accept the free foregiveness of god

once we have done that horse part then the works follow because we are of the spirit not the flesh

other religiion think they have to do good works before god will accept them

they do not understand that nothing we can ever do can make us "good enough" our righteousness is as filthy rags to god we as humans do not have the capacity to even know what is good let alone do it. First we need the spirit and only then because we have that spirit can we do good works.