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Permalink Reply by Robert DeFord on January 9, 2012 at 5:00pm

Same old unanswered questions and a couple new ones...


1. will the land mass of India be spared in your beliefs and "Theology"?
2. Are you ready? Are you waiting for the soon coming AntiChrist that will trigger this massive destruction?
3. Are you waiting for orders from your head quarters to make your pysical transition to India?

4. When is this cataclysm scheduled to happen?

5. You do not yet have a soul remember? Souls are earned by developing one for yourself.

Your cosmology of souls coming and going is totally bogus and gives you a false satisfaction that you will be spared God's Judgments.

You are relying on a total fabrication by your superiors that have you on a leash and keep you in a state of delusions.

Jesus is in charge of Judgment Day not your "father" the deceiver.

Your "father" the deceiver will have a temporary Hey Day because his main man the soon coming world dictator will be equipped with staggering earthly powers and since you are primed (programmed), by your teachers to believe what they say you will find temporary satisfaction in the reign of this global "superman"..a god man for all those that do not know Jesus as God.

That is the Master plan Kernal..in brief..and if you stay wedded to BK recipe you will face serious and severe consequences because you have been warned by many who truly do care for your salvation and your awakening and your liberation from the total delusions and craftiness of your masters that feed you lies..lies..and then more lies.

Snap out of it!
Return to Jesus..He alone is The Way..and The Truth..and The Life..that is eternal life Kernal..not the fictioonal card that you carry that you think is real.

TRransfer your allegience to God the Father of Jesus...Jesus yoga is easy..His burden is Light
Jesus is God’s Son and the Sun is His throne

Permalink Reply by Robert DeFord on January 9, 2012 at 5:14pm

I Love You Robert deFord - But Let's Get Serious

Seriously Kernal answer my questions..Until you do I am persuaded that you cannot answer them because they are so absurd you are embarrassed because your honest ansers are so absurd that your entire belief system will ber exposed as a massive mountain of horsehit.

Prove me wrong or mistaken. I woul really be mistaken that to admit that I have been engaged in a serious excahange about truth with a psychopath.

1. will the land mass of India be spared in your beliefs and "Theology"?
2. Are you ready?

new question...
3. Are you waiting for orders from your head quarters to make your pysical transition to India?

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 9, 2012 at 7:15pm

Thanks for your response Robert.  First you should know that the BKs do not proselytize.  You are not being asked to transfer your allegiance or alter your understanding that God is the Father of Jesus... that Jesus' yoga is easy... that His burden is Light or that Jesus is God’s Son and the Sun is His throne.  If this knowledge can provide you with insights or deeper understandings then by all means take what you can.  If you find little or nothing, here, then do not enter into some kind of combat.  Move along.  It is a waste of effort to argue against something you don't believe in.  Discussion here should remain positive and tolerant - would you not agree?  Would you prefer to engage in a fictitious witch hunt.

Do you think all see truth in the same way?  Do you think each has the same capacity or perspective (vantage point)?  It is not about right or wrong.  It is about understanding what we can in the best way we know how. 

 

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 9, 2012 at 7:17pm

Regarding the questions you keep asking.  You make it sound like you're really on to something. . . or that I might have something to hide.  Are your questions intended to entrap or inquire?

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 9, 2012 at 7:51pm

Destruction will spare no land mass or respect no national border.  It will not happen over night and neither you or I will escape it for it is time to go back home.  And so it is time to prepare.  This is why God comes in these final moments.  He comes to give His instruction. 

You ask if I am prepared.  I think you and I prepare in very different ways.  But yes, I spend time in preparation and never stray far from that point of readiness.  How about you Robert.

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 9, 2012 at 7:52pm

Do I wait for the coming of the anti-Christ?  NO!  What a waste of thought.

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 9, 2012 at 8:22pm

You ask, "When is this cataclysm scheduled?"  I don't pay much attention to all the details but I understand that even God does not know.  He does not press the button or cause the earth to quake.  Is Father-God benevolent or malicious?

Robert, to have ones thoughts pulled towards destruction is, for me, to miss the more important point.  Either we agree that we live in a degenerated world of maximum pollution and irreligiousness and human suffering or you and I can accept that things are getting better every day - every way. . . . evolving - so to speak.  When the mind is linked (in communion) with God and our actions take place with no thought of the self, our intellects are drawn to satyug - golden age (paradise/Eden). 

It's about using this time on earth to attain (through effort) our highest elevated stage.  This is how our future station is determined.  It is now that we accumulate the merits which are spent during the next kalpa.  This is a very auspicious period.  This is the period when the old world becomes new again.  Do you feel new again? This is what is called the mystery of creation.  This is the period when God comes to turn iron aged souls into pure gold.  And he does this through knowledge.  Starting with Lesson #1.

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 9, 2012 at 9:04pm

So often you keep telling me that I do not yet have a soul.  No matter how you cut it Robert, that is a highly judgmental and loaded statement.  Underlying your assessment is that "I" am not a soul but rather "I" have a soul.  But Robert you persistently fail to explain to me who or what "I" am that does not yet have a soul.  Am I, in your personal estimation, as non-spiritual entity called a body. And by what what authority and under what credentials do make this assessment.   

Robert, can you tell us if you have a soul?  Am I the only one here that does not yet have a soul - in your estimation?  And if I buy into the idea that you have a soul and I don't, does this then mean that you can help me also acquire a soul?  Are you here to teach me that I do not yet have a soul but that I could have one, like you, if I wanted to learn how? 

Enough of the hocus pocus focus.  What are you really trying to do or say?  Either get it out in plain view but don't hide under the table.  You look foolish when you do.

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 9, 2012 at 9:37pm

Your cosmos seems full of supernatural conspiracy and heavenly conflict between warring bands of angels. 

Robert, we are the angels who have come into physical form and whose virtues have, over time, turned into vices - anger, greed, lust, ego and attachment.  We are the fallen angels.  We have no one to blame but ourselves.

Please excuse me for not fulfilling your idea that I am here on some kind of covert mission.  You ask, "Are you waiting for orders from your head quarters to make your pysical transition to India?"  I await no orders and report to no headquarters.  Robert, you are looking for information that supports your beliefs and contentions.  So when I tell you, I am not waiting for orders because I do not report to a headquarters that is planning to transition me to India.  Do you believe me?  If you don't please understand I am under no obligation to justify myself to you nor am I here to defend the BKs.  So if your looking to cheap amusement rather than honest (balanced) inquiry then find someone else to play with. 

So Robert, plenty of room above for Khem and others to evaluate your sincerity.

Cheers.

Permalink Reply by Khem the Is Real-ite on January 10, 2012 at 1:32am

More insincere blather from psycho Salvis.  Your questions about your lack of a soul have been answered a million times.  You are no-"I", with no objective existence, except, perhaps, as a souffle of merde.

Permalink Reply by Kernel John on January 10, 2012 at 6:18am

This blather, Khem, is about as sincere as it gets.  Seeing you could not wait for Robert to speak for himself, then please point to where on this site you or anyone anyone has even attempted to clearly describe what the self is as something that purportedly acquires a soul.  This should not be a difficult task seeing you maintain this question has been answered a million times. Right? 

If you would prefer to not look up one of these million answers, however, feel free to answer in just one more time - for me - right here - if you dare. 

You call yourself Khem the Revelator?  To me you resemble the Goofy Sufi.  Do you not fancy yourself as a Sufi?  The real questions is do the any Sufis consider you one of them or are you self appointed?  Reveal something Khem.  You bill yourself as a Knower - not a Believer.   Can you provide a coherent framework for understanding Self and something that acquires a soul?

Permalink Reply by Robert DeFord on January 10, 2012 at 6:47am

When the mind is linked (in communion) with God and our actions take place with no thought of the self, our intellects are drawn to satyug - golden age (paradise/Eden).

First off you have no "self" (reread my explanation of the Elf within and ask some questions. YourTrue SElf (that elusive Elf Kernal..that little as of yet unborn sleeping Elf, is you..the rest of you is manure for the moon..or moonure (just coined that brand new word thanks to you), because at this moment you are already dead..or perhaps more easily grasped..asleep but so soundly asleep that dead is an accuratedescription of your current state of mind.

Being dead you and your housing..your body is easily moved to study and think about how to stay dead..how to not wander away from your dead teachers,,dead system..dead ideas..dead methodologies and dead beliefs that this dead (soundly and deeply sleeping like they are dear dead dead), fallen, disconnected from “reality” of eternity, infinity, and everlasting “changer” Kernal CHANGE. (SO IT IS HIGH TIME YOU CHANGE TO KEEP UP WITH “REALITY” BECAUSE AT THIS MOMENT YOU ARE STAIC,,FROZEN IN TIME, SOULLESS, AND BARKING UP THE WRONG “TREE”..CERTAINLY NOT THE TREE OF LIFE..GET MY DRIFT?) world conjures up for you and mankind ad finitum... and yes there is a conspiracy to keep you frozen, satisfied, entertained intellectually, emotionally, and physically since in the death condition, (soundly sleeping OK?), you are akin to a zombie..not really a Hollywood type zombie but in your case a BK zombie, programmed to the max with zombie instructions, zombie teachings, zombie religious language to satisfy your enchantments and aspirations. (duck billed platitudes, another inventioon because of you Kerfnal, thanks!)

That Elf, (true self Kernal) CAN BE Awakened but it has never been noticed inside you because you have been programmed to imagine you already have that precious thing you talk about a lot and that is found on your BK menu..a SOUL..and that I keep reminding you that you have to awaken that slumbering non existent Self/soul and experience that for real Kernal or you will remain ibn a state of near madness.

Do you truly believe that you have something that you cannot experience? Do you truly believe that just because the BK teachers insist that you have something that you have not experienced that you already have it? That is what the fellow thought that went into the Rolls Royce dealership awhile back with and asked to buy that black shiny very expressive Rolls and said “I can pay you with this solid gold credit card..here”. The salesman says where? “Why here in my hand”..he says “Ahhhhhhhhhh there is nothing in your hand sir”..The expectant customer, a graduate of the BK Spiritual University says “Oh yes I do have that card..my graduation certificate says so”. “What certificate”? says the agitated but sublimely patient salesman (kinda like me Kernal), ..”Why this one”. The Zombie does pulls out a piece of paper from his Nehru jacket, and flashes it in front ot the salesman's eyes and waits.
The salesman examines the piece of paper and says "Yes this says you have solid gold credit so please give me the card so I can give your chariot to you”. The expectant Zombie tries again.."Here is my card”..empty handed of course. (Apparently this Zombie truly thinks he has a card of maximum credit form a god that is also invisible and lives inside India somewhere, but that he believed by now that his certificate proves that he is now of maximum intelligence and now endowed with a real soul.

Well Kernal do you remember this story? Do you remember what happens next? Our favorite zombie is ushered to the front to the deluxe dealership and eased out the door by the somewhat bewildered sale mean muttering "Is this guy crazy”? Is this fellow just temporarily coo coo or is he totally and thoroughly lost?

That Kernal is you of course..but please do not feel all alone because if you notice when you look around outside the dealership,,there is an army of like minded soulless machines everywhere you set your eyes upon. A few of them really do have cards that are capable of acquiring great treasure but they look like the zombies very nearly bu they do not have that "self assured" trance like dreamlike zombie like sleep walking,,sleep talking..sleep thinking soft machine behavior patterns that connote the living dead.

(Living dead may seem like an oxymoron but really that is the true state of the morons that populate this planet of late. and of early as well, mankind has not deviated at all from their most ancient disconnect from their original reality in that world of light, fealty, and peace that is still existent for the sincere and honest soft machines that can "snap out of it" and listen to instructions form a light bearer..and see the flickering torch he carries and waves to anyone that has eyes and ears wide open.)

So Kernal I advise you to think long and hard on these words of wisdom from a pinnacle of reality that the humble servant Robert is dispensing in hope that there is still a spark within you of your true one and only soul/self sleeping quite soundly inside your carcass, your corpse.



cjhuck this shit though...

It's about using this time on earth to attain (through effort) our highest elevated stage. This is how our future station is determined.

No No No Kernal..that is just amping up your zombiness and adding some old petrol fuel to the about to become obsolete machinery as we trasnsition into the clean mega potent solar energy needed to ignite, feed, develop and perfect your potential soul..your truly Solar Sol...that luminous sleeping Elf..your SElf.



It is now that we accumulate the merits which are spent during the next kalpa. This is a very auspicious period. This is the period when the old world becomes new again. Do you feel new again? This is what is called the mystery of creation. This is the period when God comes to turn iron aged souls into pure gold. And he does this through knowledge. Starting with Lesson #1.

and Lesson #1 is that you are a zombie..are you OK with that?

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