The mixing of religious and non-religious beliefs in an individual.

Open Discussion: Closing the Religious Debate Section

Should we do it?

I must admit, although debates have fueled a great deal of traffic through this site, they do very much seem to hinder the actual discussion of Open Source Religion.

Generally we tend to get a bunch of religious fanatics in here attempting to convert one another, and who seem to have no interest whatsoever in OSR. Even the comments on my Discourse on Open Source Religion are just a bunch of bickering.

So do you want to talk about how beliefs are formed? How Belief Modules work? The effect of OSR on society? The future of OSR? Its past? How to further evolve the OSR movement?

Or do you want to listen to religious zealots SCREAM THEIR MIGHTY WISDOM FROM THE BOTTOM OF THEIR CAPSLOCK BUTTON!!!???

I'm really seriously considering a more cracked down version of this site with no proselytizing in any form (this should, as biproduct, eliminate bad-mouthing as well for those of you who complain of it), and NO CAPS.

It would be difficult considering we still need to talk about religion and beliefs. Do you think religious people can do this? I'm certain we'd find out.

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Permalink Reply by Charles Bruce Stewart on March 25, 2012 at 5:12am

<snip, & continued from last post>

> I think one of the nice features of an Open Source Framework is that
> it is based on people writing modules that adhere to
> a clearly requirement or standard
> in order to create a well-functioning system.

Sounds good; Yes.

> And then the framework allowing others to customize or rearrange these modules
> in a way that best suites their needs.

Sounds good; Yes.

> As for the subversives you refer to. . .
> We either want systemic change or we resist it ( . . . or we are ambivalent to it).
> Those who promote change/development and those who resist
> point at each others as people subverting the system.
> So why not agree that we are all subversives here.

Because some here are truly attempting to promote truth, justice, & peace;
&, perhaps, others here are trying to subvert that process,
so that their evil religious beliefs can continue un-abated
in their ability to use the proprietary-control of belief-modules
to pillage & plunder the common populace.

A lot of "chips are on the table" as the direct-result of this OSR discussion.

There is Evil in this world, & it is organized, intelligent,
& it is much "More Subversive" than
just the innocent mediocrity of so many among us.

Charles ...

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on March 25, 2012 at 9:01am

So sid should make a hypothesis and then get as many people as he can who believes the same thing?

I would rather Sid gather as many different belief modules as possible and the try to fit them together like puzzle pieces to construct a big picture where each puzzle piece has its place.

I always come back to the blind men and the elephant , when it comes to belief modules, instead of throwing away the belief module look at the big picture that an elephant is indeed like a rope and a tail and a wall and a tree, etc. depending on your point of view.

But if Sid its truly dedicating this web-page to "Open Source Religion", then he should be making moves to build consensus for his views with others who are similarly-inclined as he is ....

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on March 25, 2012 at 9:32am

I find that those who judge the other as the "Evil in this world" are usually the ones who "use the proprietary-control of belief-modules to pillage & plunder the common populace. "

Charles Bruce Stewart said:

Because some here are truly attempting to promote truth, justice, & peace;
&, perhaps, others here are trying to subvert that process,
so that their evil religious beliefs can continue un-abated
in their ability to use the proprietary-control of belief-modules
to pillage & plunder the common populace.

A lot of "chips are on the table" as the direct-result of this OSR discussion.

There is Evil in this world, & it is organized, intelligent,
& it is much "More Subversive" than
just the innocent mediocrity of so many among us.

Charles ...

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Permalink Reply by Kernel John on March 25, 2012 at 2:40pm

Thanks Charles,

At present, I don't think consensus building is an issue. The real issue is to get people to document their Belief Modules. In this Open Source format an individual seeker could ideally review these modules and adopt those that best suit him or her. I don't think it is necessary for Belief Modules to be formally approved or accepted by committee consensus. Currently, anyone can create a Belief Module and anyone can use them. What I like about this approach is that it theoretically enables people to assemble their own constellations of beliefs without having to go through a priestly class or through ritual unless they wish to engage in forms of collective worship which, in this web-based world, may no longer be a requirement for personal spiritual development and growth.