Comment by Kernel John on February 23, 2012 at 2:58pm

"Realization is the biggest step in the ladder of self progress. The reason we sometimes don’t realize something is that we sometimes don’t want to change our thoughts about something because we are so firm in them. The highest of all, we can say the greatest gift of all, is to be able to transform the self on the basis of self realization..." - Dadi Janki.

Comment by James Germiquet on February 23, 2012 at 3:19pm

Kernel you said "The reason we sometimes don’t realize something is that we sometimes don’t want to change our thoughts about something because we are so firm in them."

It causes me to wonder if you even understand the very words and concepts you are expressing. Since I have read your posts I can't really say I have seen you yourself "change your thoughts about the BK for example?"

Have you since your conversion changed your thoughts about the BK, even when confronted by those who have experienced another aspect of  the BK? OR do you hold steadfast  to what you now "firmly" believe?

 

Comment by Kernel John on February 23, 2012 at 7:00pm

Thanks for responding to this quotation from Dadi Janki- above.

Here's what other say about here.

Here's what she says for herself.  You might be interested.

Comment by Kernel John on February 27, 2012 at 12:12am

"if we have the determined thought to make good spiritual effort then Baba gives us a lift as a gift. If you feel yourself going down at all then bring yourself up again. If you want to make effort then sit in the lift and go up! Don’t wait for anyone …. There’s no need even to press the button… Our lift is automatic… It is our own thoughts that make us go up. Our own thoughts make us fly! Birds don’t make effort to fly do they? It is said that birds and foreigners can’t be made into friends – that is, they can’t be held on to. We are just guests here. Nothing in this world is useful to us now. Don’t become such a thief who wants to take something from a world that doesn’t belong to him" - Dadi ji.

Comment by James Germiquet on February 27, 2012 at 12:18pm

All good gifts around us are sent from heaven above. So thank the Lord for all His love. How can one 'steal' what god had freely given one?

Jesus said render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

Who made the mountains who made the trees? Who made the rivers that flow to the seas? And who hung the moon in the starry sky? Certainly not Caesar, but Montasano want to claim the gift of God as their own.

Caesar may own the money but does he really own the moutains and the seas?

But Jesus kingdom is not of this world anyway. We will indeed have a new heaven and a new earth just like this one but we will be good stewarts of that world.

Comment by Kernel John on March 7, 2012 at 12:14pm

Some try to prove themselves right when they speak. They may tell lies etc. However, I should not give them the vibrations that I know they are not speaking the truth. If I were to do this, they would not come back to me to speak again - they would go somewhere else. If they come to me a second time I will tell them what they need to be told. If I told them this the first time they came to me they would think that I was not listening to them. According to time, they will be ready to accept truth. If I want them to move along in a particular way they won’t do it. They will do it when they realize. Nowadays our effort has to be this deep and subtle. I have to pay a lot of attention on myself. - Dadi Janki

Comment by Kernel John on March 29, 2012 at 11:45am

Dadi Janki, head of the Brahma Kumaris, shares her insights on the subject of 'Healing Hearts and Minds'. Hosted by the Zoroastrian Centre in Harrow, London, in January 2012.

Comment by Robert DeFord on March 30, 2012 at 8:29am

Daddy Junkie speaks..."Some try to prove themselves right when they speak. They may tell lies etc. However, I should not give them the vibrations that I know they are not speaking the truth. If I were to do this, they would not come back to me to speak again - they would go somewhere else. If they come to me a second time I will tell them what they need to be told. If I told them this the first time they came to me they would think that I was not listening to them. According to time, they will be ready to accept truth

Here Kernal "it" (Junkie) is appoaching the truth.  Jesus is the "Truth"...Jesus is the Way to the TRuth, and He also is Life itself as you wallow around down here in a lifeless morass of delusions and illusions imagining you have a soul...fantasising that you have a Self that IsREal.

"Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord...sooner...or later.  Grab the golod ring Kernal before it disappears from your grasp.

. If I want them to move along in a particular way they won’t do it. They will do it when they realize. Nowadays our effort has to be this deep and subtle. I have to pay a lot of attention on myself. - Dadi Janki

Daddy Junkie does not have a True sElf to pay attention too...;just like you Kernal two peas in the same pod.

Comment by James Germiquet on March 30, 2012 at 9:15am

Robert

I do not think so. Dadi Janki may be the real deal. I have not had an opportunity to observe her as I have had the opportunity to observe the kernel.

Dadi has not shown the hostility and defensive nature that kernel has. Yes she does exhibit in what you quoted, a similar attitude of blaming  the other person for not yeilding.

In fact that very quote from Dadi is perhaps a Freudian slip.... ". "If I " want them to move along in a particular way they won’t do it" Who is she to to want anyone else to move along in a particular way? and "our effort has to be this deep and subtle" certainly speaks to guile and deception.

So perhaps you are indeed correct that the apple does not fall far from the tree.

We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against spiritual wickedness is high places or perhaps deep and subtle places.

Comment by Kernel John on September 22, 2012 at 7:15pm

Here's a recent uttering of 96 year old, Senior Sister, Dadi Jank:

"Three things are important to understand 1) who am I? 2) who do I belong to and 3) what do I need to do now? Go into the depth of these questions. I don’t allow myself to get involved in any thoughts about what other people are doing. The knowledge of these three things keeps my intellect and my conscience very clean and pure. In order to do the right thing at the right time, I need three things: courage, faith and honesty. When I maintain these three I feel good inside. No matter what, I mustn’t tell any lies; I mustn’t try to prove myself. Then my feelings will be pure. The thoughts and feelings I have create the atmosphere around me. So let there be honesty and love in my feelings, then, no matter what the circumstances are, I’ll be successful in what I’m doing. Om Shanti"

 

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