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WHAT GOD TEACHES US
What God Teaches
Brahma Kumaris Spiritual University
From: Eternal Drama of Souls, Matter and God
By: Raja Yogi B.K. Jagdish Chander; 1983
Chapter: CAN LIFE BE CREATED IN A TEST TUBE?
“Besides the body, there is an entity that has consciousness as its essential nature. This conscient entity uses its “living” body as an assemblage of instruments of perception and action. It experiences pleasure and pain also through the medium of the “living” body. This is called “soul”. The body “lives” and dies but the soul lives forever. Know yourself as a soul and your living body as a wonderful medium for manifestation.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: THINGS, MADE OF MATTER ARE NOT MADE FOR THEMSELVES
“In this self-luminous minute point – the Soul – lie the impressions of all the incarnate existence of the self and from this point emerge all thoughts and in this occurs the feeling. The purification of this self is the key to peace.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: INCIDENTS OF RE-BIRTH PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF THE SOUL
“If one is unable to reap the fruits of one’s actions in this life, one reaps them in the next. Thus, the law of action remains inviolable. Therefore, never must you indulge into bad action, for action goes with the soul wherever it goes.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: OUT-OF-THE BODY EXPERIENCE
“The soul is like a bird and the body is like a nest or a cage. The body may also be compared to a five-horse carriage or a motor car and the soul to a driver. The soul can move and act even without the body as a bird can fly out of a nest or a cage, or a man can walk out of his house, or even as a driver can move out of his vehicle. Remember that the body is like a caravan safari which the soul will leave one day. Therefore, let there be no attachment with the body.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: THE REAL STORY OF AN ANIMAL REBORN AS AN ANIMAL
“A human soul re-incarnates in human species, and a soul of the animal kind reincarnates in the animal species. Souls of one kind differ from the souls of the other kind in respect of their innate abilities and potentialities – their mind and their Sanskaras or predispositions. Each one reaps the fruits of its past actions in its own kind. Being of human kind, a man ought, therefore, to have behaviour and qualities far above the animalistic one.
- God Shiva
Chapter: BODY AND MIND OR CONSCIOUSNESS
“The body is constituted of elements of Matter. Consciousness or Thought is neither an attribute of these elements nor of any combination of them. Consciousness is an attribute or manifestation of a non-physical or a spiritual entity called soul.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: THE THOUGHT AND THE THINKER – both are Metaphysical
“Thought is the basis of all actions and it is the soul which thinks through the mechanism of the brain. Good thoughts bring one peace and evil thoughts result in mental tension and peacelessness. One should, therefore, know the self – the Thinker – and should purify the thoughts so as to be in peace and to spread vibrations of peace.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: IS MAN A BUNDLE OF THOUGHTS OR AN EPIPHENOMENON OF THE BRAIN?
“Thoughts and perceptions successively and consistently make their appearance and they pass, repass and glide away because soul, the conscient entity is constantly there. The constant appearance of thoughts in a succession or a chain does not show the Mind is a process but that the Mind or soul constantly processes the stimuli or the sensory messages and perceives and reacts to them. So consider yourself not a process or a bundle of successive thoughts but as one who observes this process and succession and is a subject and object of these.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: What is Mind and Where do Thoughts come From?
“You are not a body made of matter nor are your thoughts the electrical impulses of your brain. You are a super-physical entity, called the Soul, whose thoughts and actions have a moral dimension.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: MAN IS NEITHER A MACHINE NOR A GENE
“Link your mind to Me and have full faith in Me and I will shower divine peace and bliss on you”
- God Shiva
Chapter: WHERE IN THE BODY IS SOUL LOCATED?
“You are a shining Point-of-Conscient Light, seated on the throne in the centre of the place between the two eye-brows.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: MIND OR SOUL IS ESSENTIAL FOR PERFORMANCE OF BRAIN
FUNCTIONS
“Seated in the brain, it is the soul which receives information and understands it and perceives objects through the senses. It is the soul which makes judgement and takes action through the appropriate mechanism of the brain and the body. So, as a soul, you should judge between right and wrong and do only righteous actions.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: MEDITATION, ALTERTED STATES OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND STRESS ALSO INDICATE THE EXISTENCE OF THE SOUL
”Meditate lovefully if you aspire for deep bliss and lasting peace and a state of higher consciousness.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: SLEEP AND DREAM ALSO INDICATE THE EXISTENCE OF THE SOUL.
“Give up the slumber of ignorance and the somnolence of body-consciousness! Arise and march towards your goal with zest and zeal for it is now Amrit Vela – the Time to wake-up and drink the nectar of Godly knowledge.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: IS THERE A METAPHYSICAL MIND OR SOUL IN THE BRAIN?
“It is the soul that has the interest, the choice and the conscious will. It is the soul that evaluates its own thoughts and appreciates and enjoys. Knowing this, enjoy the bliss, appreciate the virtues, have strong will to root out evil and choose to be a yogi and thus will you be emancipated.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: BRAIN MEMORY AND SOUL
“It is the soul which remembers through the mechanism of the brain. If one’s memory is associated with good and happy events, one gradually becomes of good and happy nature and if, on the other hand, one recollects again and again events that are associated with evil or sorrow, one becomes irritable, short tempered and despondent by nature. One should, therefore, have only a short memory of such events and should better not hold these in one’s brain.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: SOUL AND THE CASES OF LOSS OF MEMORY
“The soul, because of a certain kind of amnesia, one cause of which is Māyā, has forgotten its true identity and also the Soul World from where it has come. That memory is now being re-awakened. Now, know thy self and have fresh memories of the self. the Supreme and of the sweet Home.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: PERMANENT MEMORY PROVES THE EXISTENCE OF THE SOUL
“It is the soul which has the conscient memory which is also associated with emotions. Every recollection stirs up or brings with it emotions and some experience. One should, therefore, have constant memory of the Supreme Father and His Divine Acts and of the paradise, for these will give him a state of purity, peace and happiness.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: GENETIC SYSTEM AND RE-INCARNATION OF SOUL
“A soul gets a particular body in a particular family, in particular socio-economic, natural environment on the basis of its Karma and sanaskars (tendencies)” It can acquire new traits and alter the old tendencies by its efforts. If you make these efforts based on Godly education, you can elevate yourself into an angelic state.
- God Shiva
Chapter: YOU ARE A SOUL WHO CAN EXPERIENCE PEACE AND BLISS
“It is the soul which experiences Peace or Bliss and it is the soul and not the brain which has the emotions of rage or anxiety. The brain and the body are the mere mechanism of exteriorisation or arousal of emotions. You are a soul who can get elevated by sublimation and redirection of your emotions.”
- God Shiva
Chapter: THE FORM OF ETERNAL SOUL, GOD AND THE THREE WORLDS
"The soul is an eternal and infinitesimal point of conscient and non-material light. It has a subtle aura or an oval-shaped effulgence — an orb — round it. It is like the minutest elliptical 'Light ball" which is subtler than Matter is, even at its subatomic level. When seen in a divine vision, it looks as a star appears from the earth. The soul is immortal. Its energy is inexhaustible. Know yourself as an immortal soul."
- God Shiva
Chapter: SOULS COME FROM THE SOUL WORLD - far beyond the sun and the stars
"Beyond the sun and the stars, there is a Subtle World of Angels. Beyond that is another world where souls abide in the incorporeal, actionless, thoughtless and calm state. That world is the Soul World. All souls have come on earth from that world. That world is the souls' Sweet Home. The earth is a stage where souls play their part, taking body as a costume."
- God Shiva
Chapter: SOULS CAN MOVE AT SPEED FASTER THAN LIGHT
"Soul can fly to any place in an infinitesimally short time. When a soul leaves its body in one country, it can fly to another country in almost no time. Soul has also the wings of Thought. With the wings of Thoughts and Love you can mentally fly to the Soul World in no time. This flight is called the voyage to God on the spaceship of remembrance. Wish you this happy journey! Bon Voyage!"
- God Shiva
Chapter: EXPERIENCE OF SOUL AS A SEPARATE ENTITY
"The soul is an entity, who has existence separate from the body. But, it has committed the error of identifying itself with the body. If however, a person acquires the rational knowledge of the soul and practices soul-consciousness, he can experience withdrawal from the body and also his separate existence."
- God Shiva
Chapter: SOUL- CONSCIOUSNESS IS THE KEY TO HAPPINESS
"Man's many diseases are due to his emotional turmoil or his mental disturbance. Emotional upheaval is caused by one of the vices, or evils, called sex-lust, anger, ego, etc. which spoils his relationship with others and create a spurt or surge of disturbance in his mind. So, know that vices are cause of peacelessness and disease. If you stabilize in the self and attain swasthiti, you will have swasthya — health."
- God Shiva
Chapter: MIND-BODY INTER-ACTION AND THE QUESTION OF HAPPINESS AND HEALTH
"Body-consciousness leads to fear, anger, tension and unsteady state of Mind. It leads to vices and peacelessness. Know that you are a soul. Soul-consciousness and peace will enable the soul to be righteous and to have positive thoughts which will give it peace."
- God Shiva
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Comment by Kernel John on February 26, 2012 at 7:35pm -
Khem, I wouldn't quite put it like you do above but in discussion with R. Pandurangan earlier today I did propose that consciousness can be seen as part of a continuum. Here's the discussion thread - more.
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Comment by James Germiquet on February 26, 2012 at 10:41pm -
The problem with "quantity" is it often requires sacrificing quality, which in this particular instance simply will not do and you are back to the quantity being FEW of the many who are called. At least I think from Khems POV.
Of course Jesus started with a few, but His prayer was that not only would that "few" be one with Him as He is one with the Father but ALL "who believe in Him" because of these "few" would be one with Him.
Jesus was like patient zero in the spread of the virus of the "holy spirit" and the only way it is spreads is through human contact. Jesus loved his disciples , his disciples loved those they came into contact with and so on and so on until the disease of love and compassion and forgiveness had spread around the world. But so many people have an immune system that sheilds them from this disease. An immune system built of fear and judgementalness and pride. It takes a lot of love and personal trust to break down that defensive shell and allow others to spread that love virus to and through them.
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Comment by Kernel John on February 27, 2012 at 12:09am
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James, where can quality be found? Is it likely to be found in something old or new? Are you prepared to do any looking?
The quality can be found in those who are prepared to sacrifice their mind, body and material wealth in the service of God. Would that define the type of quality you refer to?
First, where can you find such (quality) individuals who have sacrificed every thing for God? Next the question is, can such individuals be found in a single group or comm-unity (quantity).
So start your virtual search and give us your findings James. Where is great quality and substantial quantity be found? Do you see any examples of a single gathering prepared to sacrifice everything for God every moment? Is that not living in the now? Would this not be a clan of both great quality yet substantial in size to accomplish substantial works of great faith.
A tall order - would you not agree James? Can you see examples of such communities : ).
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Comment by Robert DeFord on February 27, 2012 at 9:03am -
art of me would still like to say we are all created equal...
Yes Pelvis..we are born equally asleep and "few" of us reach a "predestined" and awakened state after we experience the True Self and the Truth about sleeping "soulless" humanity and its Zombifacation by this worlds Magical Mystery Tour Cinematic Triumph all in special color, with incredible special sensory attractors and actors imbedded in Satan's play book., combined with his "Miraculous Maya Meds" he has dissolved into every Whopper and every BK veggie burger on the menu.
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Comment by Kernel John on February 27, 2012 at 10:13am
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Hi Rob,
Who to believe? You or the billion other Christians who claim to be awakened in the name of Jesus. Who to believe? Those self-stylized Christian like yourself or the mainstream or neither?
No matter how many times I look at what you project, I seem unable to understand that God cares ultimately what religious clan one belongs to.
I don't think there is anything wrong with being a cheerleader for Jesus but this would seem to be a common tactic used by those who would like to get close to the real playing field but don't quite know how to get into the game. Be a cheerleader is certainly better than sitting in the bleachers, Rob, but it doesn't compare with actually getting into the game. As you know, however, some people do get called in only at games-end to kick a winning field goal or such while others play the entire game. The important this is that we each play our role in drama accurately. Right?
In my state of sleep, I aspire to enter the next game from the start and play the whole game through. You, in your sleeping state, seems to think that we only get to participate in a single play.
Robert, don't concern yourself with me (or the BKs). I am more than equipped to take care of myself. Focus on your-self and your ability reflect Gods wisdom, love, and compassion for his Children. No need aggrandize yourself as you do. Be the change you seek in others.
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Comment by Robert DeFord on February 27, 2012 at 11:15am
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Comment by Robert DeFord on February 27, 2012 at 11:36am
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Kernal applies his "super dense" logik and says...Who to believe? You or the billion other Christians who claim to be awakened in the name of Jesus. Who to believe? Those self-stylized Christian like yourself or the mainstream or neither?
There is absolutely no "main stream" in Christianity Kernal that is another idiotic "assumption" you make like most of your observations about Jesus Christ and His infinitely fragmented "body" of believers. What all religions have are many needed hydras, schisms, splits, divisions, all announcing they are of Christ..whereas Jesus states that none of them are adequate nor do they truly represent Him today..so He is forming His body as described in chapter 212 of the book of revelations...His final church Kernal appropriate to His raising the bar for believers and sending more powers into His body, world wide.
Again as for me Kernal I am not self styled..I am SELF styled and have been stylishly styled by Jesus Himself and His Book that He, His Father, and His Holy and august Spirit wrote for the entire world to study, pray over, and be inspired by to climb Jacob's ladder all the "Way" Kernal all the weay as we look down from abouve on all the ranchises below.
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Comment by James Germiquet on February 27, 2012 at 12:02pm
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Kernel
I was not talking about quality of people I was talking about quality of the message. The more quality the message has, the less people will be able to recognizw it as such. Every word of Jesus was jam packed with truth. The same verse could be applied in a thousand situations. Think about it. Just 2 commandments could fulfill ALL the laws of moses. How? I have explained it before. How ignorant must so many people be to know that the ten commandments were covered by the 2 Jesus left, and how much more ignorant must people be to know that ALL the rest of the bible is unnecessary if one just follows those 2 simple commandments.
Do you think those 2 commandments are 'complex' the only person those 2 complex would confuse would be those people who simply refuse to accept the spirit of truth and righteousness as their guide in applying those simple commandments in all their everyday actions. People want to do somethning OTHER than those 2 simple commands and so they have to ask a million questions which lead to a million answers as to why it is permissable to disregard those 2 rules in their particular circumstance.
those 2 commandments as simple as they are ./../ are 'quality' messages which FEW people truly recognize the quality of.
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Comment by Kernel John on February 27, 2012 at 12:40pm
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Robert, you seem unaware that those who would consider themselves mainstream Christian would not likely call you one of them. So, when one is out in left field, correct, there appears to be no mainstream.
Yes, there is a fragmented "body" of "Christian" believers with multiple schisms, splits, as well as, divisions, sects and isms.
As for me Robert, I am very much attracted to the idea of "One God, One World Family". I know you mocked this concept the other day but that's because you spend too much time thumping your chest and not identifying those with higher ideals.
Tell me more about this final congregation/family and His raising of the bar . . . etc. For more about how high the bar has been risen - click here.
As for the ladder. . . coming down it is the easy part. Knowing how to ascend means working against the affects of gravity and an accumulation of bad or negative habits. Yes, of course, I am always inspired by Jacob's Ladder. Indeed, it is a very old image. We come down the ladder at our appointed time and now it is time to prepare for the return trip home.
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Comment by James Germiquet on February 27, 2012 at 12:45pm
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Kernal
Your quarterback versus field goal kicker I take it is the same idea of the biblical One sows the seed and another may reap the harvest.
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