Comment by doug on September 1, 2009 at 2:10am

Point #2 is baloney and points #3 & 4 are hypocrisy...if they are not done with the heart, they are not done at all...
Point #6 mentions "great sin", but offers no remedy (or salvation from) for that sin...and there exists none within Islam. How very, very sad.

Comment by Sidian M.S. Jones on September 1, 2009 at 2:20pm

Finally got a bit of Islam in here don't we?
Nashwanalganem, we've been hoping to have a few voices from Islam to discuss these kind of matters. Thanks for signing up.

Comment by Kernel John on September 1, 2009 at 9:50pm

I hear Mohammad described as the last prophet. If my understanding is correct, what does this mean? Is the full word of god now revealed?

Comment by James S Saint on September 2, 2009 at 12:17am

"Is the full word of god now revealed? "

Regardless of the Islamic answer or even the Christian answer, the real answer is "no".

Comment by doug on September 2, 2009 at 3:16am

Astrologer,

What you say concerning point 5 is certainly true. However, it is not true at all the Allah is the same as Yhwh. They they have very different characters and personalities, especially in that Allah is aloof and Yhwh is personal. When Mohammed made up the speeches/rantings that eventually became the Koran, he borrowed heavily from the Bible, but his memory was poorly served and so the Koran does not line up with the Bible very well at all, especially in details.

The full word of God has already been revealed in the Bible, John S. It is only that many people choose not to hear or receive it.

And I surely agree with Sid: finally, a Muslim has signed on. We shall see where it goes and what develops.

Comment by nashwanalganem on September 3, 2009 at 2:41pm

Hello my dear friend doug ,

Thanks for your comment in my blog ..

I advice you to read the holy quran to know more about the teachings of islam ..

Plz visit this site

http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/

with reference to salavation in islam ..::>>>

You can read about concept of salvation in islam in thses links ..

Salvation in Islam

http://www.islamawareness.net/Salvation/salvation1.html

Forgiveness in Islam

http://www.islamawareness.net/Salvat...rgiveness.html

Revelation and Salvation Towards an Islamic View Of History

http://www.al-islam.org/al-serat/rev-salv.htm

many thanks for your visit and comment in my blog ..

May allah bless you ..

Comment by doug on September 4, 2009 at 3:56am

Nashwanalganem,

I greatly appreciate your response. I have read the Quran. I have also just read the link that you gave concerning salvation in Islam...Thankyou.

I would like to respond to a few concepts in that link. It says that liberation is achieved by renouncing the world...this is indeed a worthwhile thing to do, but does not provide one with salvation. Just as the link also says that one should "develop self by conquering the forces of nature". The Bible tell us that one must eliminate self and that that is accomplished by allowing Jesus to be our sole source of life (spiritually), since he has already conquered the world. We only need to accept what Jesus has already done for us.

The link also states that the "Quran is a gospel of hope". I see it as only an empty hope, since there is no true salvation...no guarantee. Especially since the link also proclaims that a person is saved "when one's right actions outweigh his wrong actions". This means that salvation is only achieved through WORKS. One never really can know if they have done enough good works. There is only an empty hope in that. The Bible teaches that Jesus has already purchased salvation for each person...if they are willing to accept what HE has done for us, personally. In other words, it is not what we do individually that saves us, but rather what Jesus has already done for us, through his atoning sacrifice and resurrection (which proved it was an acceptable sacrifice). This is our GUARANTEE of salvation. There is no insecurity of not knowing if you have done sufficient good works or right actions. This shows the love of God (YHWH), that he offered his son for our salvation. Sadly, this is not available in Islam.

Comment by nashwanalganem on September 4, 2009 at 2:54pm

Hey my dear friend doug ..

Thanks for reading the links . and for your reply ,

dear doug ,

In Islam, the key to salvation is the belief in and
worship of the One True, Unique and Perfect God and
obedience to His commandments, the same message brought by
all Prophets. Islam preaches that a person must work
righteousness and avoid sin to attain Paradise, and that
if one sins, that they seek repentance for it from their
heart. Through this and the Mercy and Grace of God, they
will enter Paradise. Islam does not deem that all those
before the advent of Muhammad are doomed to Hell, but
rather that each nation was sent a prophet by the same One
God, and it was upon them to follow His commandments.
Those who have not heard of the message are not held
liable to follow Islam, and God will deal with them with
His Perfect Justice on the Day of Judgment. Infants and
children of both Muslims and disbelievers alike are in
enjoyment in Paradise upon death. Due to the infinite
Justice of God:

“No one laden with burdens can bear another’s burden. And
We never punish (people) until We have sent (to them) a
Messenger (to give warning).” (Quran 17:15)
There are many verses in the Qur’an and sayings of the
Prophet -peace be upon him- on the love, mercy and
forgiveness of Allah. In one of the prayers that the
Prophet taught, he said, “O Allah, You are most Forgiving
One, You love to forgive, so forgive me.”(reported by al-
Trimidhi and Ibn Majah). We need Allah’s mercy and
forgiveness all the time. It is wrong to assume at any
time that one will find eternal salvation without the
forgiveness of Allah.

Just as it is important to believe in the mercy and
forgiveness of Allah, it is also necessary to base human
relations on forgiveness. We cannot expect Allah’s
forgiveness unless we also forgive those who do wrong to
us. Forgiving each other, even forgiving one’s enemies is
one of the most important Islamic teaching. In the Qur’an
Allah has described the Believers as “those who avoid
major sins and acts of indecencies and when they are angry
they forgive.” (al-Shura 42:37) Later in the same Surah
Allah says, “The reward of the evil is the evil thereof,
but whosoever forgives and makes amends, his reward is
upon Allah.” (al-Shura 42:40) In another place the Qur’an
says, “If you punish, then punish with the like of that
wherewith you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently,
indeed it is better for the patient. Endure you patiently.
Your patience is not except through the help of Allah (al
-Nahl 16:126-127)
In one Hadith the Prophet -peace be upon him- said that
Allah has commanded him about nine things. One of them he
mentioned was “that I forgive those who do wrong to me.”

My dear friend doug , this is the concept of salavation
and forgivness in islam ,

Nowhere in the four gospels did Jesus explicitly state
that he would die to save mankind from sin. When
approached by a man who asked what he could do to gain
eternal life, Jesus told him to keep the Commandments
(Mat. 19: 16,17); in other words, to obey God's Law. To a
similar question put to him by a lawyer, as recorded in
the gospel of Luke, Jesus told him to love God and his
fellow man (Luke 10:25-28).

The role of Jesus is made clear in the Quran where God
says: "Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a
Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away
before him...see how God doth make His Signs clear to
them, yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the
truth" (5:75).
The mission of Jesus was not, therefore, to set up a new
method of achieving salvation, much less the founding of a
new system of belief; as even the Bible points out, Jesus
sought only to take the Jews from their emphasis on ritual
back to that of righteousness (Mat. 6:1-8).

Despite its prominent place in Christianity, the notion of
an "original sin" is not found among the teachings of any
prophet, Jesus included. In the Old Testament, God says:
"...the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,
neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son"
(Ez.18:20-22). Personal responsibility is also stressed in
the Qur'an where God says: "...no bearer of burdens can
bear the burden of another...man can have nothing but what
he strives for" (53:38,39).


Since God is Almighty, He doesn't need the charade
concocted by Christians in order to forgive man. In the
Qur'an, God says we are all created in a state of goodness
(30:30); He has not burdened man with any "original sin",
having forgiven Adam and Eve (2:36-38; 7:23,24) as He
forgives us (11:90; 39:53-56).

As we are all personally responsible for our actions
(2:286; 6:164) there is no need for a humanly concocted
savior in Islam; salvation comes from God alone (28:67).

Thus did Islam seek to restore the true meaning to
monotheism, for in the Qur'an God asks: "Who can be better
in religion than one who submits his whole self to God,
does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in
faith?" (4:125; 41:33).

With his very salvation at stake here, the Christian
should take a closer look at what he believes in and why.
God says in the Qur'an: "O People of the Book! Commit no
excesses in your religion, nor say of God aught but the
truth. Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was no more than a
Messenger of God...for God is One God; glory be to Him:
far exalted is He above having a son. To him belong all
things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a
Disposer of Affairs." (4:171).

My christian Friend, here is a Message that Allah Almighty
wants you to read:
"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!
Come to common terms as between us and you: That we
worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with
Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and
patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say
ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing
to Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"

Comment by Sidian M.S. Jones on September 4, 2009 at 4:09pm

I love the idea of this Muslim using Christian's own tricks against them.
The idea that "This religion is the only true one." or that "This God is the only real God."
It's absolutely delightful.

Comment by Jeff H on September 4, 2009 at 5:21pm

Respectfully, The Prophet (PBUH) did not consider Islam as peaceful of faith as is being put forth in these days.

Sura 5:51: “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them.” This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people.

There is a consistency in the statements in Qur'an about the Jews, Christians, unbelievers, infidels, polytheists, only a few statements are favorable. But the direct approach of whom Mohammed meant is clear from his theme of elimination and destiny for punishment.

Sura3 3:64: “Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers (whom he defined as Christians in the 5th surah “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.) and has prepared for them a Blazing Fire to dwell in forever. No protector will they find, nor savior. That Day their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire. They will say: ‘Woe to us! We should have obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger!’ ‘Our Lord! Give them double torment and curse them with a very great Curse!’”

What does The true God say about cursing his people? Read Gen.12:3

Sura72:15 “The disbelievers are the firewood of hell.”

“What, do you desire to guide him whom God has led astray? Whom God leads astray, thou wilt not find for him a way [of salvation]. They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as a friend or helper. (Arberry, Interpreted p.113)

Hadith, the body of traditions relating to Mohammed and now supplemental to the Koran: He (Abu Hurayah) reported the messenger of Allah as saying: The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the Stone and the tree will say, O Muslim, O servant of God! There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him. The only exception will be the box-thorn for it is one of the trees of the Jews. (Sahih of Muslim, quoted by Israel and the Prophecies of Al Quran by Ali Akbar, Bismi Publishers 1992, p.44)

Of the Unbelievers: Sura 4:89 “seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Sura 9:5)

4:101 “When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.” 4:102 “For the Unbelievers, Allah has prepared a humiliating punishment.”

8:19 “(O Unbelievers!) if ye prayed for victory and judgment, now hath the judgment come to you: if ye desist (from wrong), it will be best for you: if ye return (to the attack), so shall We. Not the least good will your forces be to you even if they (were multiplied: for verily God is with those who believe!”

8:59-60 “Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of God, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.”
Another translation makes this plain - “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.”

9.123 “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you”

9.73 “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.”

Surah 2, Contains the subject of war numerous times (Jihad). It is approved to be the solution to aggression when necessary. The following paragraphs are out of the Qur’an. (The Qur’an was written in Arabic, but translated in English by those who are Muslim and speak Arabic.)

“War is prescribed to you: but from this ye are averse.” (Sura 2:212).

“To participate in Jihad in Allah's cause” (Al Bukhari vol. 1:25)

Sura 2:187-189 “And kill them wherever ye shall find them, and eject them from whatever place they have ejected you; for civil discord is worse than carnage: yet attack them not at the sacred Mosque, unless they attack you therein; but if they attack you, slay them. Such the reward of the infidels...Fight therefore against them until there be no more civil discord, and the only worship be that of God: but if they desist, then let there be no hostility, save against the wicked.”

2:190-292 “Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits, for Allah does not love transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out: For tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; But fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they first fight you there; But if they fight you, Slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.”

2:193 “And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and let there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.”

2:216 “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not. 217 They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: “Fighting therein is a grave (offense); but graver is it in the sight of God to prevent access to the path of God, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members. Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be Companions of the Fire and will abide therein.”

2:244 “Then fight in the cause of God, and know that God heareth and knoweth all things. 245 Who is he that will loan to God a beautiful loan, which God will double unto his credit and multiply many times? It is God that giveth (you) want or plenty, and to Him shall be your return.”

Many of these quotes should be self-evident what the meaning is. Of course they will be some that say that what they mean is not what they read like. Muslim clerics and their apologists are saying “the command to kill non-Muslims is not for today” it was only for a certain time. Where in the Qur’an does it say this? It does not say or teach the commands to kill the “infidels”, “unbelievers” “Jews” and “Christians” was only for a previous time. ” Nowhere. why should we accept this rhetoric? There is proof in the Qur'an that it is actually to continue and increase.

No doubt I heard Allah's messenger saying, “During the last days there will appear some young foolish people, who will say the best words, but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will leave the faith) and will go out from their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.” (Bukhari volume 9, no.64)

One of their Hadiths states about their own: Narrated Ikrima: The statement of Allah’s Apostle (Muhammad), “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” (Hadith 9:45; 84.2.57.)

Sura 9:29-33 “Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.”

Sura 8:15 “O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers preparing for battle do not turn your backs to them. [Anyone who does] shall incur the wrath of God, and Hell shall be his home,- an evil dwelling (indeed)!”

Sura 8:57 “So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson.”

Sura 8:65 “O Messenger! Rouse the Believers among you to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish two thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are people without understanding.” In other words those who believe not in Allah are not equal to those who do.”

Sura 8:67 “It is not fitting for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”

Sura 6:157 “Or lest ye should say: "If the Book had only been sent down to us, we should have followed its guidance better than they." Now then hath come unto you a clear (sign) from your Lord,- and a guide and a mercy: then who could do more wrong than one who rejecteth God's signs, and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.” So if you are not a Muslim, how do you think this affects you.

Sura 8:12 “Remember your Lord inspired the angels with the message: “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”

“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah. Whatever you spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid to you and you shall not be treated unjustly.”

“Take not the Jews and Christians for friends ... slay the idolaters [infidels] wherever ye find them. ...Fight against those who ... believe not in Allah nor the Last Day” (Sura 5:51; 9:5,29,41).

Sura 9:39 “If you do not fight, He will punish you severely, and put others in your place”

9:52 “…Allah will send His punishment from Himself or by our hands.”

The Qur’an teaches: Allah has given those that fight with their goods and their persons a higher rank than those who stay at home . . . The unbelievers are your sworn enemies . . . Seek out your enemies relentlessly . . . . You shall not plead for traitors . . . Allah does not love the treacherous or the sinful. (Dawood, Koran, pp. 367-68.)

“. . . kill the pagans wherever you may find them . . .”

Sura 4:74: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of Allah, - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall We give him a reward of great value.”

Sura 4:95 “Allah has granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit at home.”

Sura 9:14 “Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you to victory over them, heal the breasts of the Believers.” Fight (kill) them (non-Muslims), and God will punish, (torment) them by your hands, cover them with shame. (Surah 9:14 at-Taubah 9:14)

Sura 9:78-83 “Know they not that God doth know their secret (thoughts) and their secret counsels, and that God knoweth well all things unseen? Those who slander such of the believers as give themselves freely to (deeds of) charity, as well as such as can find nothing to give except the fruits of their labor, and throw ridicule on them, God will throw back their ridicule on them: and they shall have a grievous penalty. 80 Whether thou ask for their forgiveness or not, (their sin is unforgivable): if thou ask seventy times for their forgiveness, God will not forgive them: because they have rejected God and His apostle; and God guideth not those who are perversely rebellious. Those who were left behind (in the Tabuk expedition) rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the apostle of God: they hated to strive and fight, with their goods and their persons, in the cause of God: they said, “Go not forth in the heat. Say, “The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat.” If only they could understand! Let them laugh a little: much will they weep: a recompense for the (evil) that they do. If, then, God bring thee back to any of them, and they ask thy permission to come out (with thee), say: “Never shall ye come out with me, nor fight an enemy with me: for ye preferred to sit inactive on the first occasion: then sit ye (now) with those who lag behind.”

Sura 4:168: “Those who reject [Islamic] Faith, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any path except the way to Hell, to dwell therein forever. And this to Allah is easy.”

Sura 9:123: “Believers! wage war against such of the infidels as are your neighbours, and let them find you rigorous: and know that God is with those who fear him.” Hey neighbor how do you feel about this?

Infidels are those who worship any other but Allah. Yet I have heard Muslims claim Allah is the same God of the Old Testament. If so why are not the Jews and Christians accepted? The answer is clear, because they reject their apostle.

Sura 9:29-33: “Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled. The Jews say, 'Ezra (Ozair) is a son of God'; and the Christians say, 'The Messiah is a son of God'. Such the sayings in their mouths! They resemble the sayings of the Infidels of old! God do battle with them! How are they misguided!..He it is who hath sent His Apostle with the Guidance and a religion of the truth, that He may make it victorious over every other religion, albeit they who assign partners to God be averse from it.”

Mohammed said: “No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (infidel).”(Hadith vol. 9:50) This means a non- Muslim.

Sura 15:66: “And We made known this decree to him, that the last remnants of those (sinners) should be cut off by the morning.”

Instead of conversion by force, physically or otherwise, Christ said that His disciples did not fight because His kingdom was not of this world (John 18:36). Those who fight love this present world and the Bible says the love of the Father is not in them. Indeed, He told His disciples, “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you” (Mt 5:44). I have nothing similar to this in the Qur'an yet it the teachings of Christ are supposed to be in it.

What about peace treaties and appeasement with Islamic forces?

In the Qur’an, Sura 8:58: “If you apprehend treachery from any group on the part of a people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them. The infidels should not think they can bypass (Islamic law or the punishment of Allah). Surely they cannot escape.”

Sura 9:3: “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”

4:90 “For those who join a group between you and whom there is a treaty, or (those who become) weary of fighting you, had Allah had willed, He could have given
them power over you, and they would have fought you. Therefore if they withdraw and wage not war, and send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah has not given you a way (to war) against them.” [The purpose of terror is to cause people to become so “weary of fighting” they surrender.]

What does this mean? In another translation 4:90 “If they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”

Sura 22:18 “Seest thou not that to God bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on earth,- the sun, the moon, the stars; the hills, the trees, the animals; and a great number among mankind? But a great number are (also) such as are fit for Punishment: and such as God shall disgrace,- None can raise to honour: for God carries out all that He wills.v:19 These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water.v:20 With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. v:21 In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. v:22 Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), "Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!”

Sura 47:4 “Therefore, when you meet the Unbelievers in fight, smite at their necks; at length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly on them… He lets you fight in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the way of Allah, - He will never let their deeds be lost.” Another English translation says, “When ye encounter the infidels, strike off their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters.”

Sura 59:2 “It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering of the forces. Little did you think that they would get out: and they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the wrath of Allah came to them from quarters from which they had little expected it, and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their own dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers.”

Sura 59:4,5 “That is because they resisted Allah and His Messenger: and if any one resists Allah, verily Allah is severe in punishment. Whether you cut down O you Muslims the tender palm-trees, or if you left them standing on their roots, it was by leave of Allah, and in order that He might cover with shame the rebellious transgressors.”

Sura 59:14 “They will not fight you even together, except in fortified townships, or from behind walls. Strong is their fighting spirit amongst themselves: you would think they are united, but their hearts are divided: that is because they are a people devoid of wisdom.”

Sura 61:4 “Verily God loveth those who, as though they were a solid wall, do battle for his cause in serried lines!”

Surah 61 encourages the Muslims to give their wealth for their cause, and if necessary their lives for the cause of Islam. It is passages like this that advocate war. Sura 61:9-11 “Fain would they put out the light of God with their mouths! but though the Infidels hate it, God will perfect his light. He it is who sent his apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that, though they hate it who join other gods with God, He may make it victorious over every other religion.” O ye who believe! shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in God and His Apostle, and that ye strive (Jihad) (your utmost) in the Cause of God, with your property and your persons: that will be best for you, if ye but knew!

Sura 69:44-48 “And if the apostle were to invent any sayings in Our name, We should certainly seize him by his right hand, And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart: Nor could any of you withhold him (from Our wrath). But verily this is a Message for the God-fearing.”

Sura 66:9: “O Prophet! make war on the infidels and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their abode! and wretched the passage to it!” Another translation says, “Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate”

Sura 8:39-40: “Say to the infidels: If they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven them; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's.” Another translation is 8.39 “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.”

Sura 9:5: “And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert, and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way, for God is Gracious, Merciful.”

This is but a small sampling of the hatred and violence that is included in this book that can be used by those of this religion. This book is the foundation upon which this religion is founded. This begins to explain the motivation and the action we see by those who put these sayings into practice. Islam is not based on the individual opinion of Muslims, but the Qur’an. So why is it I’m able to find what others say is not there?

What are there expectations? Do they want to live in peace with others and allow people the freedom to choose? There are some who believe in peace and there are numerous verses that speak of not killing or harming others, even animals. But Militant / fundamentalist Islam's goal, is able to use passages in the Qur’an for their goal of bringing all mankind into submission (“Islam”). And if not then the other option is to kill all “infidels”, unbelievers if necessary (these are the unbelievers in Allah and Muhammad his prophet, not unbelievers in God (Sura 2:190-192;4:76; 5:33; 9:5, 29,41; 47:4).

Islam in obedience to the Qur’an is the driving force for most of the terrorism today we are seeing today. If you don't believe this, check who the majority of people are that are doing the terrorist acts throughout the world.

The truth is that the only sure way to paradise for a Muslim, to die in a Jihad. Sura 9:111 “God hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than God? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.” “And if you are slain, or die in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass.” (Surah 3:157 Al-Imran 3:157)

Contrary to other religions that offer heaven by good works and Christianity that offers it for free to those who believe and follow Jesus Christ, a obedient Muslim can not be sure of his hereafter without it. Muslims are offered a palace; in it are 72 mansions with 72 homes with 72 sheets on 72 beds with 72 virgins that never lose their virginity. Mohammed said, “The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to paradise (if he is killed).” (Al Bukhari vol. 1:35.) “They [true believers] will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches” (Sura 37:48). This gives us insight into their denial of this life and being rewarded in the next. The promise of heaven to those who die in battle for the cause of Allah is quite a promise.

Sura 48:27-28 “Truly did God fulfil the vision for His Apostle: ye shall enter the Sacred Mosque, if God wills, with minds secure, heads shaved, hair cut short, and without fear. For He knew what ye knew not, and He granted, besides this, a speedy victory. It is He Who has sent His Apostle with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion: and enough is God for a Witness.” (Maulama Mohammed Ali 1917 translation says of this verse-- this prophecy of the prevalence of Islam over all other religions, is a prophecy which extends into the distant future while Arabia saw its fulfillment in the lifetime of the holy prophet the prevalence of Islam does not however mean the political supremacy of it its adherents at all times. Nor does the prophecy signify that other religions would at any time entirely disappear. It only indicates that the superiority of the religion of Islam over all other religions will at last be established. And Islam will be the religion of the majority of the nations of the earth. No other Scripture prophesies the triumph of the religion it preaches in unmistakable terms.)
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Some of the most honorable people I have ever known are Muslem. I count them as my priviledged friends, and I mean no discourtesy to the people of Islam in any fashion. I only site the teachings.

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