Comment by Jeff H on January 28, 2011 at 11:09am

no place left to go...

Comment by Jeff H on January 28, 2011 at 9:21pm

bump...

Comment by Roman Kozlowski on January 29, 2011 at 6:51am

Light-hearted moment, yes, but c'mon, in context.

The fact is that all belief is an effort to address insecurities. Though the belief that scienctific methodology attempts to address and secure a more accurate understanding of our physical world cannot be misconstrued in the same way as mainly mythologically-led religious stories.

Good thought provoking moment nevertheless.

 

Comment by Kernel John on January 29, 2011 at 8:23am

Why show only 37 seconds of video?

Plenty of place left to go.  Another minute or two would have been fine.

Comment by Khem the Is Real-ite on January 29, 2011 at 10:27am

Though the belief that scienctific methodology attempts to address and secure a more accurate understanding of our physical world cannot be misconstrued in the same way as mainly mythologically-led religious stories.

 

I agree.  "scientific understanding of our physical world" should be construed in exactly the same way as "mythologically-led religious stories", except that the latter are far more fact-based.

Comment by Jeff H on January 29, 2011 at 12:54pm

If you recall my post about absolute truth, I feel the same logic holds...

 

Them: "There is no absolute truth"

 

Me: "Do you believe that to be absolutely true?"

 

Them: "Yes"

 

Me: "Thank You"

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"Until someone comes along with new information."

God has all the information there will ever be.

 

Comment by Jeff H on January 29, 2011 at 12:56pm

"The fact is that all belief is an effort to address insecurities"

 

God is, whether we believe or not. God is not an invention, He is "The Inventor".

Comment by Kernel John on January 29, 2011 at 1:54pm

No Jeff, I do not recall your post about absolute truth.  I come from the Frank Buchman school and remember you hardly at all.

You say:

   Them: "There is no absolute truth"

   Me: "Do you believe that to be absolutely true?"

   Them: "Yes"

   Me: "Thank You"

 

We say . . .

   We:  "There is absolute truth and we leave it for fools to claim they know.
            He who claims to know it commits an untruth along the journey of time
            - that is - until the end when that which is not becomes apparent to us all."

   Them: "But there is an absolute truth and it is there for anyone but the unjust or unknowing to claim."

   We:  We claim to be the just and those who know truth, yet we are humbled by the Truth. so humbled that we do not cailm to own it or even know it in its entirety. To what to we wish to comply?"

   Others: We are "Them" yet we do not trust "them" with the truth.  If there is absolute Truth, we trust only He who is the author.  No need for an interpretation or to have "We" as the interpreter of truth.

   We: We are now talking of a time when Gods truth descends upon us - all equally and according to our own strengths, characteristics and capacities.  Is there something about this approach that is unacceptable?

- - - - -

Jeff, what are we to lose by not listening to what you so kindly offer us? 

Are we more feeble than you?

Do we (others) not see as well as you?

Or, are we simply the ones prepared to venture further, faster and longer than you? 

This knowledge says, "The last go fast." 

There is still time.

 

Do you see yourself, one day, inhabiting Golden Age (Paradise) along with the great soul (sun of god)? Probably not. 

You are chained to the founder of your religion and through this construct connected to God the Father of all Souls. This is OK.  Don't worry.  Be Happy.

Comment by Jeff H on January 29, 2011 at 2:18pm

 

absolute truth is different the the 4 absolutes, which are values. listen and you'll learn someday.

Comment by Jeff H on January 29, 2011 at 2:20pm

 

To help your memory...

http://www.opensourcereligion.net/forum/topics/the-absolute-absolut...

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